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		<title>All Government Healthcare Plans Will Cover Illegals</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone remembers President Obama declaring that public insurance options would not cover illegal immigrants and Rep Joe Wilson shouting &#8220;You lie!&#8221;  We have also reported that the Congressional Research Service has stated that HR 3200 would cover illegal immigrants. There have also been numerous attempts by House and Senate Republicans to add amendments to the bills with specific language denying public finance insurance for illegal immigrants.  All of those attempts have been defeated by the Democrats. In 1982, the Supreme Court ruled in Plyler v. Doe that benefits offered to the general public could not exclude certain groups of people; even if those people are not in the country legally. You can probably expect to see some language make it into drafts of final bills excluding public dollars to fund insurance for illegal immigrants as most voters are against providing it even if they are for some form of public option.  Which doesn&#8217;t explain the Democrats insistence that no such language is in the various bills or President Obama declaring that his plan wouldn&#8217;t cover those people in the country illegally. Once language is inserted into the bill, then Americans don&#8217;t have to worry about providing publicly funded insurance to illegal immigrants [...]]]></description>
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</script></div><p>Everyone remembers President Obama declaring that public insurance options would not cover illegal immigrants and Rep Joe Wilson shouting &#8220;You lie!&#8221;  We have also <a href="http://conservativepatriothq.com/2009/08/28/hr-3200-will-cover-illegal-immigrants/" target="_blank">reported that the Congressional Research Service</a> has stated that HR 3200 would cover illegal immigrants.</p>
<p>There have also been numerous attempts by House and Senate Republicans to add amendments to the bills with specific language denying public finance insurance for illegal immigrants.  All of those attempts have been defeated by the Democrats.</p>
<blockquote><p>In 1982, the Supreme Court ruled in Plyler v. Doe that benefits offered to the general public could not exclude certain groups of people; even if those people are not in the country legally.</p></blockquote>
<p>You can probably expect to see some language make it into drafts of final bills excluding public dollars to fund insurance for illegal immigrants as most voters are against providing it even if they are for some form of public option.  Which doesn&#8217;t explain the Democrats insistence that no such language is in the various bills or President Obama declaring that his plan wouldn&#8217;t cover those people in the country illegally.</p>
<p>Once language is inserted into the bill, then Americans don&#8217;t have to worry about providing publicly funded insurance to illegal immigrants right?</p>
<p>Wrong!</p>
<p>In 1982, the Supreme Court ruled in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plyler_v._Doe" target="_blank">Plyler v. Doe </a>that benefits offered to the general public could not exclude certain groups of people even people not in the country legally.</p>
<p>Texas had a law that denied funds for public education to children in the country illegally.  The Supreme Court ruled in Plyler v. Doe that the Texas state law was in violation of the constitution stating that &#8221;as illegal immigrant children are people &#8220;in any ordinary sense of the term&#8221;, and therefore had protection from discrimination&#8221;.</p>
<p>The President is either trying to mislead the American people or is ignorant of the fact that in Plyler v. Doe, the Supreme Court insured that the legislature would not be able to stop illegal immigrants from getting free or subsidized insurance if it is offered to the public in general.</p>
<p>This alone is enough reason to oppose any public option to be included in healthcare reform.</p>
<p>The next time you hear a politician say that illegals will not be covered under a public option, feel free to shout out either &#8220;You lie!&#8221; or &#8220;You are ignorant!&#8221;.  However, shouting out &#8220;You are ignorant&#8221; is probably closer to the truth.</p>
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		<title>Political Stories You Might Have Missed 08-28-09</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As always, the world of politics continues to make headlines in the media.  Below is a list of stories that you might have missed. HR 3200 Will Cover Illegal Immigrants - Despite claims from several people in congress, the health care reform bill will cover illegal immigrants according to the congressional research service.  This is exactly why our representatives need to read the bills they are supporting.  If they have read it, they are misleading us. ABC and NBC Show Their Bia Proudly - Media companies make money selling ad space and ad time.  However ABC and NBC are refusing to allow ads that are critical of the President&#8217;s health care reform agenda.  The article contains links so you can view the ad and see if you think it is any more misleading than the ads they show that are in favor of the health care reform plan. National Debt Set to Double - Early in the week, the Obama administration indicated that the 10 year deficit would be approximately $9 trillion, which was $2 trillion more than they predicted two months earlier.  This means that in 2019, the national debt will go from almost $12 trillion to $21 trillion.  The yearly interest [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, the world of politics continues to make headlines in the media.  Below is a list of stories that you might have missed.</p>
<p><a href="http://conservativepatriothq.com/2009/08/28/hr-3200-will-cover-illegal-immigrants/" target="_blank">HR 3200 Will Cover Illegal Immigrants</a> - Despite claims from several people in congress, the health care reform bill will cover illegal immigrants according to the congressional research service.  This is exactly why our representatives need to read the bills they are supporting.  If they have read it, they are misleading us.</p>
<p><a href="http://conservativepatriothq.com/2009/08/28/abc-and-nbc-are-show-their-bias-proudly/" target="_blank">ABC and NBC Show Their Bia Proudly</a> - Media companies make money selling ad space and ad time.  However ABC and NBC are refusing to allow ads that are critical of the President&#8217;s health care reform agenda.  The article contains links so you can view the ad and see if you think it is any more misleading than the ads they show that are in favor of the health care reform plan.</p>
<p><a href="http://conservativepatriothq.com/2009/08/25/national-debt-set-to-double/" target="_blank">National Debt Set to Double</a> - Early in the week, the Obama administration indicated that the 10 year deficit would be approximately $9 trillion, which was $2 trillion more than they predicted two months earlier.  This means that in 2019, the national debt will go from almost $12 trillion to $21 trillion.  The yearly interest alone on that debt will be more than the stimulus bill.</p>
<p><a href="http://conservativepatriothq.com/2009/08/21/ted-kennedy-wants-to-rollback-law-he-demanded/" target="_blank">Ted Kennedy Wants to Rollback a Law He Demanded</a> - Prior to his death, Ted Kennedy wrote a letter to the Massachusetts state government  asking that they change state law to allow the governor to appoint a senator to an empty congressional senate seat.  The problem is that in 2004 he lead the charge to change state law to remove the power of interim appointments from the governor.  At the time, Mitt Romney was governor and Kennedy didn&#8217;t want Romney to be able to appoint a Republican to the empty seat if John Kerry won the 2004 presidential election.  Apparently the need of the people to have representation is secondary to the needs of the party.</p>
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		<title>HR 3200 Will Cover Illegal Immigrants</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The White House has been keen to try and stamp out any myths out there about the health care reform bill.  However, the Congressional Research Service just recently busted the myth that HR 3200 will NOT cover Illegal Immigrants. In several town halls throughout the country, Democrat congressmen are pushing the myth that Illegal Immigrants will not be covered.  They point to a section of the bill that specifically prohibits the awarding of affordability credits to illegal immigrants.  CRS also notes that “undocumented aliens” who have a “substantial presence” in the US would be required to buy health insurance (page 4) through the exchanges in HR3200. However, as the CRS points out, the bill does nothing to require anybody to prove that they are a U.S. citizen before enrolling in the public option.  In fact, the CRS indicates that the bill requires Illegal Immigrants to enroll in the health insurance exchanges if they have a substantial presence in the U.S. You can read the report here.  As more and more Americans get a chance to view and understand the bill, it becomes more and more obvious why the Obama administration and the Democrat controlled congress wanted to vote and pass the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The White House has been keen to try and stamp out any myths out there about the health care reform bill.  However, the Congressional Research Service <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/28/congressional-research-office-obamacare-will-cover-illegal-immigrants/" target="_blank">just recently busted the myth </a>that HR 3200 will NOT cover Illegal Immigrants.</p>
<p>In several town halls throughout the country, Democrat congressmen are pushing the myth that Illegal Immigrants will not be covered.  They point to a section of the bill that specifically prohibits the awarding of affordability credits to illegal immigrants. </p>
<blockquote><p>CRS also notes that “undocumented aliens” who have a “substantial presence” in the US would be <em>required</em> to buy health insurance (page 4) through the exchanges in HR3200.</p></blockquote>
<p>However, as the CRS points out, the bill does nothing to require anybody to prove that they are a U.S. citizen before enrolling in the public option.  In fact, the CRS indicates that the bill requires Illegal Immigrants to enroll in the health insurance exchanges if they have a substantial presence in the U.S.</p>
<p>You can <a href="http://media.sfexaminer.com/documents/noncitizens.pdf" target="_blank">read the report here.</a>  As more and more Americans get a chance to view and understand the bill, it becomes more and more obvious why the Obama administration and the Democrat controlled congress wanted to vote and pass the bill before it could face any scrutiny.</p>
<p>As Americans, we need to demand that our representatives take the time to read the bills they are voting on and allow the American people to view bills.  Even if they are for the idea of the bill, they and we need to understand how that idea will be implemented.</p>
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